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Slow going;
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 17, 2004 5:11 PM
I haven't been posting lately on account this site is moving VERY slow, it takes on the average 30 to 45 seconds to open a subject and then another 30 or so seconds to open the post, after ten to fifteen seconds to read and a minute to reply and then another 45 seconds to return to the page, I've falling asleep!! Anyone else have slow moving? I know its not my computer, because the Fine Scale site moves along just fine. Anything I could do? HELP
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 17, 2004 6:02 PM
i have not had your problem, i know that there is not alot of activity around the site, so that makes it kinda slow, but the web site is not slow for me, maybe it's youe computer????
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Posted by roadhawg on Monday, May 17, 2004 10:21 PM
it happens to me every once in a while, and im on cable. i just say "forget it" and come back later and its ok. maybe its a poltergiest.ShockShockShock

I went to a "gentleman's club" because the sign said they had all the hottest models. I thought it was a hobby shop. Man, was I ever disappointed.

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  • From: Arroyo Grande, CA
Posted by MojoDoctor on Monday, May 17, 2004 10:54 PM
Toss your cookies and reload. Works for me!

Matt Good judgement is the result of experience, Experience is the result of poor judgement. Mark Twain

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Posted by Andy Lilienthal on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 8:56 AM
I'd try that, too. If you're still having a problem, post up here again, and I'll let the tech people know.
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Posted by Tiburon on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:53 AM
I found the answer to my slow problems as well as boot offs/or lack of gettting on. I quit useing IE and went to and old NS browser. Seems to work much better than the newer Version of IE. Maybe it will work for you as well.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 4:40 PM
There are times like now its OK, not real fast, but not crawling, I've done all the stuff like reloading, dumping cookies, etc. that doesn't help. Like I said in the first post, its only this site, all other sites run OK. Will just bear with it..
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 4:17 AM
hey gasser you're right this is a slow site,check this categaory under SLOW AND STOP....that's me...and yes ,i do all those things every time i sign off,no difference,....and andy,it's the only site that's this slow,seems to be reloading all the time..say for example,i get into a category,and i want to return to where i came from,well,when i hit my "back" button,instead of flashing back ,it seems to reload everything i 've seen...takes forever.I' m not complaining ,i really like what you have here,and all the people are all so helpful,and especially polite...but if i only have 15 minutes to kill,i want to see as much as i can....hope this helps.....ciao for now..PCP
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  • From: nw GA
Posted by bill mathewson on Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:51 PM
If you think this site is slow, try Trains.com and specifically the Model Railroader Forum at that site. It's like a snail. It's also a Kalmbach site.

Don't get me wrong. This Forum has rekindled my interest in building once again, and I am forever grateful. I think that there are some quirks in the system, for they ONLY show up on the two Kalmbach websites, and no where else.

If you're having some wierd things happening to your PC, refer to a most recent topic in the 'General Discussion' section of the Model Railroader forum (www.trains.com or www. modelrailroader.com). Look for topic dealing w/ Sasser virus-most recent post was today. I've suggested on that Forum, and will do the same here (because Andy seems to respond a whole lot quicker than his assocaites over at Model Railroader), that there may be a connection w/ Kalmbach and the various problems some of us are experiencing.

There is a program called 'targetwords'com' that seems to have sneaked into one of the many holes in Windows XP, and it is slowing down my PC, and it's a pain in the tail to get rid of it. Some think it's related to the ads on the right hand margin of the Forums (Google), some think it's got in thru Yahoo, and most everyone thinks that Internet Explorer is at least part of the problem.

I'm a bit of a neophite when it comes to things digital (caught in the time warp between slide rules and personal <A TITLE="Click for more information about computers" STYLE="text-decoration: none; border-bottom: medium solid green;" HREF="http://search.targetwords.com/u.search?x=5977|1||||computers|AA1VDw">computers</A>-I remember when calculators were noisy and weighed over twenty pounds !) Nothing like a problem to get you involved. Sure speeds up the pace on the learning curve.

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I purposely edited this post to illustrate what happens when I edit a post with any number of key words-like 'computer' in the last paragraph above. All that gargage surrounds the key word. (see my next post, too)

BILL
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  • From: nw GA
Posted by bill mathewson on Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:58 PM
Is the word 'computer' in the third line from the bottom on the above post highlighted in 'red' and underlined in a freehand sort of way when it shows up on your screen? If it was on the Model Railroader Forum site, it would have been highlighted in the same fashion, but in'blue'.

Please let me know, because this is part of a targetword.com intrusive program, that has inundated me with garbage 100 fold. I did a check to see what programs are loaded on my PC and literally approx. 100 were in there, all having the word 'target' in the program code or language.

If anyone has had a similar experience, and especially if you've found a fix, please let me know on this topic. Thanks !
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  • From: Arroyo Grande, CA
Posted by MojoDoctor on Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:28 PM
I've been reading all of the posts concerning slow access with different sites, and I'd like to add something to think about.

Admitting this is rather embarassing, but I've got an old computer that Christopher Columbus used to keep inventory operating with a dial up connection and a 33.6 modem, Windows 98, and virtually no memory. My connection speed has never changed, but when I had trouble with corrupt cookies, I could not log on. I have not had the trouble of rebooting, or reloading, or getting kicked off. This and the slowness of access is what has been described as a result of those worms.

The reason I'm bringing this up is to offer the idea that maybe the problems experienced here have nothing to do with a particular site, but with our computers themselves. The old Windows 98 operating system seems to be too old to be of interest to these worms and bugs out there. I've never had the trouble described here, so I was trying to think of another answer.

Just maybe one more thing to consider.

Matt Good judgement is the result of experience, Experience is the result of poor judgement. Mark Twain

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:49 PM
Is the word 'computer' in the third line from the bottom on the above post highlighted in 'red' and underlined in a freehand sort of way when it shows up on your screen?

Nope.. I've been to Trains.com and had to quit going there because it is WAY slower than this site, I visit Finescale Modeler site with no problems at all.. And for the most part the web moves along pretty good, and I don't have this problem all the time here, I'm using Window XP, and dial up with AOL.
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Posted by Andy Lilienthal on Friday, May 21, 2004 9:15 AM
I don't see the word computer highlighted, either.

I wonder if you've been infested with spyware (little bits of info that track your web surfing). There are some free spyware removal programs. If you search for spyware removal on Google.com, you should find some (I use the program from http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/). Also, if you haven't already, I suggest investing in good antivirus software such as Norton Antivirus or McAffee.

I have notified our tech guys about the speed of the Forum. I went home and tried the Forum on my blazingly fast 56K modem (which recently only connects at 45.6), and it wasn't terribly slow; at least no slower than anything else with my dial-up.
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Posted by bill mathewson on Friday, May 21, 2004 2:47 PM
Thanks Andy and everyone else that replied to my question about my psycho'd PC. I have McAfee, SpyBot S&D, Google's popup blocker, and Norton firewall. (I just removed Zone -Alert because it was causing more harm than good). I have Windows XP, Internet Explorer 6, an MSN hotmail address, and connect w/ Adelphia hi -speed cable modem. I know I've got "targetwords' attached to a bunch of my files and I'm going to address that tonite. Will post an update if I get it cured, in case anyone else has a similar problem.

Again, thanks. . .
BILL
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Posted by David Voss on Friday, May 21, 2004 3:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bill mathewson
There is a program called 'targetwords'com' that seems to have sneaked into one of the many holes in Windows XP, and it is slowing down my PC, and it's a pain in the tail to get rid of it. Some think it's related to the ads on the right hand margin of the Forums (Google), some think it's got in thru Yahoo, and most everyone thinks that Internet Explorer is at least part of the problem.

I'm a bit of a neophite when it comes to things digital (caught in the time warp between slide rules and personal <A TITLE="Click for more information about computers" STYLE="text-decoration: none; border-bottom: medium solid green;" HREF="http://search.targetwords.com/u.search?x=5977|1||||computers|AA1VDw">computers</A>-I remember when calculators were noisy and weighed over twenty pounds !) Nothing like a problem to get you involved. Sure speeds up the pace on the learning curve.


Part of the problem is definitely IE. Make sure you have the latest updates installed. I know it's a major pain if you're on dialup, but you need to do it. These programs don't care how you're connecting to the Internet.

Windows Update
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp

The targetwords program is most likely the cause of your problems. Not only are you loading a page here, but that program is then looking for keywords on this page, communicating back to targetwords.com for what to do (matching keywords with links/ads) and then doing it. So not only are you dealing with our site, but also targetwords.com. Also the overhead of parsing out an entire page (especially one with a lot of text like a forum thread) will be a performance hit which would be more noticeable on the older machines.

Take a look at this post I copied over from FineScale.

Adware, Spyware, and Malware
http://www.scaleautomag.com/sca/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5121

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Posted by David Voss on Friday, May 21, 2004 3:46 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bill mathewson
I have McAfee, SpyBot S&D, Google's popup blocker, and Norton firewall.


Make sure you also check out Ad-aware like Andy suggested. SpyBot and Ad-aware are very good programs but are best used in tandem. There are things one program might miss which the other will pick up.

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Posted by David Voss on Friday, May 21, 2004 3:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bill mathewson
There is a program called 'targetwords'com' that seems to have sneaked into one of the many holes in Windows XP, and it is slowing down my PC, and it's a pain in the tail to get rid of it.


Try this once...

Manual Spy Bot Removal > SearchAndBrowse
http://www.spy-bot.net/SearchAndBrowse.asp

Also...check out this page...very interesting...

Parasite (unsolicited commercial software) Detection Script
http://www.doxdesk.com/parasite/



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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 21, 2004 6:10 PM
I too, have found that deleting your cookies and emptying your web cache can help your comp's performance.

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