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  • Member since
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  • From: Morphett Vale, Australia
Posted by dingo on Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:27 PM

Great work on the motor Patrick, sorry I have posted anything lately although I have done some work on my model, it's just that the camera belongs to our neighbour and she has had it for about two weeks now doing lots of stuff of her own so I have to wait.  The Mazda is painted in its final colour of emerald green yea I know not to exciting for a rally car but U have to remember it is a 70's -80's club car and most club driver/members didn't bu flash cars as they also used them as daily drivers, not like today where they so afraid to drive at night (bloody wimps)Oops - Sign sorry guys my Aussie language coming out there, anyway will get some photos up as soon as I get the camera back again.

  Dingo Cool

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Posted by PatrickW on Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:13 AM

Hi dingo, I look forward to seeing your latest efforts, it's a pity we can't sign up anymore builders for this CPB. (I wonder if we can bribe anyone but what would we use as bait?) I have a few more pics. Most of the work is being done on the chassis/test fitting the body/painting the body etc, anyway here we go....

The Minilites are fitted.

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I had to shorten the plug caps as they were too high (bonnet wouldn't shut) and move the brace bar forward as it sat on top of one plug lead/cap..

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This is the boot area with fuel filler on the left and dry sump oil tank on the right...

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A few more pics to come....

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  • From: UK
Posted by PatrickW on Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:22 AM

Here we are...with the photo-etch seatbelts.I have had to put a brace bar across in the roll cage as the belts are shorter tha the ones they suggest you make for the MK2 kit...

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The last pics for today are the fire extinguishers and seats fitted.....

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I've just rubbed down the first gloss white coat of paint after leaving it for two weeks and added another coat of gloss white, so I'll now wait until that dries, mask off the bonnet and tops of the front wings for the satin black and buy some long nosed pliers tomorrow as I'm having a bit of a mare trying to make the hinges for the bonnet and boot lid! See you soon.Wink

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  • From: Morphett Vale, Australia
Posted by dingo on Sunday, May 08, 2011 11:09 PM

Wow Patrick U're doing great with the Escort, now for my Mazda here R a few nmore pics of my slow build to the end and as for the backs of the seats I don't think'I'll do 'em because once the body and especially the windows R in U won't see them.

U've got to remember that plastic is no longer my main medium for model building but I won't put up my cardstock rally car building as I'm not really all that good at building cars or trucks when it comes to that plastic is a side line now but I still love doing 'em.

   Dingo Cool

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Posted by PatrickW on Thursday, May 12, 2011 5:09 PM

Hi dingo, the Mazda is looking well. I like the colour, the roll cage and alloys. Youv'e painted well round the windows, something I have problems with. I guess I should learn to mask up better! I'm just waiting for the latest white gloss coat to dry on the shell. In the mean time I'm searching on the Dakar website for trucks as I've found an old one in the loft/attic from when we decorated in the 90's? It will mean lengthening the chassis quite a bit and fabricating a box type body with plasticard.

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  • From: Morphett Vale, Australia
Posted by dingo on Monday, May 16, 2011 7:17 AM

Patrick, for the lines around the windows I use a sharpie pen both black & silver that does make it a bit easier but a steady hand does help as well also I use some Tamiya masking tape to help out as well.

  Dingo Cool

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Posted by PatrickW on Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:49 PM

Thanks dingo I'll give it a try! Not done anything in 10 days because we've been away in Cyprus for a break.

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Posted by dingo on Monday, May 23, 2011 9:30 PM

Patrick I've haven't done anything either so we're both sailing the same boat BUT mine is due to the lousy weather it has come in cold & wet since last thursday it's been raining and the wind is so bad it is almost blowing the rain in horizontally I've never seen it so strong where we live, we normally get maybe a 65kp/h but nothing like it is at the moment up around 110-120kp/h.  We heard a great big bang on Sunday morning and thought oh well there goes someone  shed but when we set off for the gun club at the rounsabout near us was a semi-trailer laying on its side blown over by the wind, mind U Patrick the roundabout is a stupid set-up they have a negative camber and Im surprised a truck hasn't fallen over long before this.

 

Dingo Cool

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Posted by dingo on Saturday, June 11, 2011 7:47 AM

Hey Patrick, I wonder why no one has decided to take on this build is it that it is out of their confort zone of fast flashy cars, muscle machine or even classic street machines and hot rods or is it that they just don't know how to build a decent rally car. Embarrassed

Dingo Cool

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Posted by PatrickW on Friday, June 17, 2011 8:52 AM

You got it dingo, they don't know how to build a decent rallycar! No I didn't mean any disrespect, I'm looking forward to seeing the Nissan Skyline get started. i was watching the Tassy Targa on the box with ferrari's and all sorts taking part, fantastic mix of cars. Anyway at last got some work done on the MK1. It's strange that when you want a few days off work to do some model work a misterious list appears and most of the time is spent, painting the bathroom ceiling( four coats!),fixing a dodgy floorboard in the bedroom, cutting the grass etc. Here are a few pics, I have at last fabricated and fitted a hinged bonnet using a paperclip and two pieces of plastic tube, not for the faint hearted as I had to use superglue ( plastic tube to resin body) to fix it to both the scuttle below the windscreen surround and when set tape the bonnet on and glue to the underside of the bonnet! This being the first one I've made and fitted, so afraid to get it wrong I have avoided it for some weeks.

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Propped open with another peice of paperclip gives it the right scale prop.

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Put the body back on to make sure that there is plenty of space to open and close the bonnet. Also painted the bonnet inside and out and the top of the wings matt black as per 1:1 works car.

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I've just given the bootlid it's first coat of white primer and when dry a light gloss white etc. then make another hinge, but smaller to fit inside to boot.

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  • From: Morphett Vale, Australia
Posted by dingo on Monday, June 20, 2011 7:08 AM

Patrick as my Mazda is getting close to a finished model I'm now on the hunt for another car and I'm thinking of doing a London to Sydney Marathon Falcon if I can get the donor kit for the Chassis and motor it ain't going to be easy and far from cheap, hopefully it will look something like the car below.

  Dingo Cool

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Posted by dingo on Sunday, June 26, 2011 9:25 AM

Well my Mazda is almost done just the decalling to do and it's finished so here wot it looks like so far.

Yea I know not the greatest of cars but then a lpt of club cars in those days weren't and many like mine where used as daily drivers, no I never own a Mazda 323 BUT I once owned a Madza RX4 coupe that I rallied for about 8 weeks, got too expensive and besides I wrecked it in the end on a leasure drive with my girlfriend one day. ( yes we both survived but a male friend in the back didn't)

   Dingo Cool

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Posted by PatrickW on Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:22 PM

This looks great dingo! And as you say a typical daily driver, rally at the week-end car.What decals are you looking at laying up?  

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Posted by dingo on Sunday, June 26, 2011 6:23 PM

Well Patrick instaed of telling U wot decals I'm putting on the car here they R, now remember most club cars only ran wot stickers they could from the box of equipment they bought to improve their car well at least that's all I did with my then Corolla.

As this car is now finished I'm now looking for another one and as I said before I'm hoping it's going to be the Falcon XW GT.

   Dingo Cool

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Posted by PatrickW on Monday, June 27, 2011 8:38 AM

That looks great with those 'period' decals,well done! But where can you possibly get a kit or just a body of the Falcon your after? I contacted the partsbox in OZ and bought a resin Holden Commodore Club version and some Valvoline decals from another OZ supplier to build up an OZ V8 Supercar. Were great supporters of this series in the UK as we like the idea of V8's thundering round. We were out in Queensland for a month in 2003 and visited *** Johnson's workshops and had a look around his collection of all of his racecars since the year dot! 

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Posted by dingo on Tuesday, June 28, 2011 12:46 AM

The XW Falcon body I hope to get from Scale Automobilia in Grafton, New South Wales the main problem will be the running gear and again I'm hopng he has all that as well. The Partsbox guys R OK if U don't fall out with them like I have so when I do order from them I do so using my neighbours address it works well as they as yet haven't worked out that it's right next door to the one they know ( dumdums).  I have been to trivky dicky's race museum but the one thing I have to sy is that when U where there both Greens Tuf and Bluesteel  the XD Falcon may not have been has D.J. had to sell both of them to get out of a bit of money problems, just hope that one day he can buy them back or at least his son Steve can.

Dingo Cool

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Posted by PatrickW on Thursday, July 21, 2011 5:26 PM

Hi, dingo, I'm back, had a few issues with the white paintwork, had to do a respray. I have cut out the windows from a christmas assorted pretzel clear plastic tray lid! I also tried to do the black sharpie around the window openings (not very well). Painted the interior door panels matt black (already in the moulded resin bodyshell) I have fitted the bootlid hinge but had to cut a slot in the rear parcel shelf to allow room for the hinge fixing under the rear window and the hinges to raise and lower. Pictures to come on all of this hopefully by the weekend!  

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Posted by dingo on Friday, July 22, 2011 7:00 AM

Great to see Ya back again Patrick, I've finally got my Mazda finished and will soon be placing it on the page for all to see, have made one slight change by adding lights to each side just by the mirrors as though the car has been prepped for a safari or marathon.

   Dingo Cool

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Posted by PatrickW on Saturday, July 30, 2011 2:54 PM

Hi there dingo, I've now got some more piccys!

The first one is of the new boot lid hinge... on the right hand side in the boot is the oil tank and on the left the fuel filler...

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The second is how the car looks with the boot open...

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The third is the finished dash with the obligitory tape on the wheel at the straight ahead position..

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Three more to come.....

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Posted by PatrickW on Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:02 PM

Piccy number four is a test fit of the basic roll cage..

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number five is the start of the seat belt harness test fitting..

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And number six the basic cage over the seats to check the length of the shoulder belts where they will fit to the brace bar behind the seats...

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That's all for now...next will be the window fitting, I've cut out all of the 'glass' now to fit it! see you soon.

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  • From: Morphett Vale, Australia
Posted by dingo on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:38 AM

Hey PAtrick that escort is coming along good wish I could say the same about my next car it looks like I'm going to have to hunt something down in my LHS as the falcon is a little out of my reach wot with our 1:1 car giving us a few heart aches at the moment, it's leaking brake fluid at the master cylinder and no one knows why as all the nuts that hold the pipes in place R tight it seems to be a pipe issue where the fluid is coming out between the pipe and the connecting nut to the main reserviour so it's a new master cylinder, a $250aust job.  Oh well I'll get a nother rally car done by the end of the year hopefully.

Dingo Cool

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Posted by dingo on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:38 PM

Hey Patrick, I see U got the obligatory piece of tape at the top of the steering wheel, I never ubstood Y drivers put that there oh yea I had it as well but it didn't serve the purpose they said it would which was to tell U when the steering wheel was aligned straight with the steer wheels at the front ??? the only problem that I cpuld see and it always reared its ungly head when I was in comp was that if U turned the wheels and then had that piece of tape back at the top of the steering wheel it should be that the front wheels where straight, nope not so Patrick coz wot if you had the wheels turn to the right for instance and the tape was at the top is the tape really telling U that the front wheels R straight ofcourse not and in the heat of competition it can be a little daunting to say the least.  By the way how is that little Escort coming along good I hope.  I'm not sure if I'm going to get another car built I have one major project comeing up that is going to cot me quite a bit of dollars and I've got to get it, it's a frock caot for my gun club western action shoot and iby the time I want it the Aussie dollar will problaby be back down to .67cent in the U.S. instead of beingup around $1.10 to the U.S. $  Oh well that,s life and we've all got to live with.  By the way I do feel for all U guys over there in the haveing to put up with that President of U'rs we have a prime Minister who is just as stupid so don't wory Patrick it's just as bad here with her and her carbon tax trying to destroy us all.   That's my political speach for now.

    Dingo Cool

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Posted by PatrickW on Saturday, August 13, 2011 11:52 AM

Hi dingo,

Yes we have the same problem here with politicians! As you will have seen we have had a lot of rioting here across the country, all supposedly connected to a mini cab driver waving a gun at the police and being shot dead. The home secretary then when pressured by the government and the public says we must not use water cannon or rubber bullets as we don't do that in the UK. So the rioters & looters are left to get on with it! and cause all manner of trouble. The Goverment are so detached from real life they have no common sense, but hey they are all the same, don't rock the boat!

Yes I hope to finish the Escort soon, I have a VW Beetle on the bench, and want to finish two rally Subaru Imprezza's with decals, so I'll put those on this thread as well. All the best speak to you again soon.

PS the tape on the steering wheel is as you said but these cars are fitted with "quick" steering racks and can go full lock on just under one turn of the wheel

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Posted by dingo on Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:41 AM

Sorry Patrick I placed you in the U.S. instead of the U.K. applogy for that.  Yes it is the master cylinder that's giving me heart ache the dammed thing is leaking from the big nut that holds the pipe that controls all the brakes but not too bad all I got to do is every two days is put fluid in it BUT at $8 a bottle it's expensive when U don't have the $8.  I do hope to have another car bought and finished before the end of the year with this Rally CBP so Patrick cross ya fingers and everything else for me.

  Dingo Cool

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Posted by PatrickW on Saturday, August 20, 2011 2:33 AM

A few more pics...the first is with the windows in...

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the second is with the auxiliary lamps on the front...

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the third is looking at the aggresive stance with the lamps fitted......

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I am now painting the rear lamps on, and then making the mud flaps from black plasticard (if I've got some!).

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Posted by dingo on Saturday, August 20, 2011 6:34 AM

Patrick where did U get the driving lights for it from they're gret and wouldn't mind getting a heap of them for my spares bin.  The eshie is coming along quite nice Patrick U'r doing a great job, looks like we're going to be the winning ones hey wot.  I can tell U one thing I dunno if I'll ever suggest a CBP again after this lot, no one is even remotely interested and I thought a heap of builders would've jumped at it, oh well just proves me wrong ..  I'm also hoping to get one more in before the end of the year it night be a quick one month build in Nov/Dec.

  Dingo Cool

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Posted by PatrickW on Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:02 AM

OK dingo, yes it's going gradually well! The big lamps come from the MK2 kit I'm scavenging from to build the MK1. Yes it is disappointing that there's only two of us. I'm not a great lover of US cars, mainly because we don't see many here and they are so expensive to run and don't handle well on our narrow twisty roads. They are OK on straight roads but we don't have many of those over here. And I notice that the popular ones are all old ones.

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Posted by dingo on Sunday, August 28, 2011 10:40 PM

Patrick it looks like I'm not going to be able to get a second car in unless I extend this CBP for another 6 months and I really dont want to do that as this past 8 months of the build has been a flop as far as having other builders here maybe over the Christmas/New Year period I'll think of something diferent and get more players, let's see wot happens hey.

   Dingo Cool

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Posted by PatrickW on Monday, August 29, 2011 11:53 AM

Ok mate! I'll finish off my Escort and place all the pics on here and we'll go from there, speak to you again soon.

PS just measuring up for the front and rear mud flaps and cut them from red plasticard although the real ones were black!

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Posted by PatrickW on Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:23 AM

Hi well the last three pics are below, which finishes off the MK1 build. Since taking the pics I've been round the edge of the mud flaps with a black Sharpie to cover up the edge of the red plasticard I've used.

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It's a great pity that dingo and I are the only people on this site who are interested in rally cars to get involved in this thread. I for one didn't realise how dissinterested people are in rallying and rallysport in general. Well that's my gripe over and now I'm about to build an Empi Imp kit that I got free with a Porsche 914 kit for Christmas 2-3 years ago from my two sons. Whether I shall put it on here or Finescale I don't know yet. Bye.

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