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monster truck /puller/mud racer/tough trucks cbp
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:44 PM
alright, i'm gonna try this, hopefully we can get it goin with a little more allowance of entry.

nitrochargeraafc, i kinda took your rules, i hope you dont mind bud!

-Must be an existing or a no name monster truck
-Can be built box stock or out of several kits
-Aftermarket parts are fully welcome
-Home made decals are allowed
-It is preferable to post progress pics
-start date is september 11th, monday morning.
-multiple entries are welcome, however no more than 5 per person will be allowed.
-end date will be march 31st

there will a winner, no prize, just the glory of winning, as well as three classes.

class one- old style trucks, leaf spring suspension
class two- new style trucks, tube framed trucks
class three- work in progress, can be either new style or old, only enter this class if you know you will not be finished in time for the contest. you may switch from class one or two if you run out of time.


ok time for my entries.

in class one

Nightlife 2 chevy stepside
equalizer 2 chevy s10

and in class two

monster mutt 49 mercury
bigfoot 10(straight out of the box)

have fun and good luck!!!

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Posted by javelinsst390 on Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:49 AM
COOL! I'm IN!

but I have a question for you. I have recently acquired a number of Puller kits, Two orange Blossom Specials, a tennessee Thunder Funny car, and here just recently, a Meister brau Tractor. I also acquired the parts I need t start a mud-racer project I've been wanting to do.

Plus I've already got quite a few Monster kits, USA-1, Bigfoot #1, Bigfoot #10, (still need the other two kits, Bigfoot #6 and Bigfoot #8) And a Thunderbolt One Blazer Monster kit.

I also have an MPC monster Dragster, but it's a goofy-lookin' thing that I am going to put a set of paddle-tires on and turn into a sand rail.

Anyhow, because of all this, and the seemingly renewed interest in these subjects, I was thinking about starting a Monster/puller/mud racer/ tough truck/USHRA CBP.

basically just like the Monster CBP, but encompassing ALL the subjects you would have seen at any given USHRA/Monsater Jam type event, or any Monster truck show. I was thinking about basically making an on-line Monster-truck/tractor-puller rally. See what I'm saying?

Anyway, I am Definitely IN for the Monster CBP, but I have decided to hold off on my CBP as I don't want to step on your toes.

Unless you want to adopt my idea. My guess is that this could turn into the largest CBP on earth if you did. Imagine it: Do you remember the BIG off-road truck shows in the 80's and 90's? The ones you;d see on T.V. all the time? There'd be a regular truck show for the lifted, jacked-up 4x4's, then there would be all the events. The tractor pulls, the 2wd and 4wd truck pulls, The mud-racers in all different classes from Stockers all the way up The Open-Unlimited paddle-tire class, Which are basically just a 4WD Fuel altered that runs on mud, to the tough trucks and all the other stuff at one of those shows.

It would be really cool to see someone build a "truckasaurus"!!! or something like that...

There are just PILES and PILES of kits available out there (few are still in Production, but all are still readily available for under $50.00) for something like this.

if you want, i could make up a list of stuff.

Sorry dude, I'm not trying to hijack your CBP, I just had an idea at the same time you did, and they kind of COnflict, so I'll hold off on mine unless you want to meld the two together.

Either way, I'm IN!

Class one Entry:
Bigfoot #1, Completely corrected, with tilt front end, Correct wheelbase, corrected wheel opeings and stretched Flares.

Class Two Entry:
Bigfoot #10. I had already started this one, I painted the body and decaled it, then set it on my shelf. I never did anything else to it. Is this OK?

Class three:
AMT Thunderbolt one Blazer monster Truck, will probably have custom decals and paint, and a different name. As-yet un-named project.


Can't wait to see everyone Else's entries.
Peace, Chris Remember When real cars were made of metal and models were made of plastic? Now real cars are plastic and models are metal! "Have any good freakouts lately?"
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:26 AM
first all entries are welcomed.

second, i have already changed the title

as for the rules of the puller, and mud racers and tough trucks rules, i will allow javelin to create those.
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Posted by javelinsst390 on Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:56 PM
Awesome! I LOVE it!

The rules for the pullers/mud racers/Tough trucks are as follows:

Tough truck:
The rules here are pretty much open. Any body style of truck (or even car converted for off-road use) or SUV (Blazer, Bronco, jeeps) will be allowed. The only restriction here is no "rock buggies". It MUST be based on an existing kit body.
Modifications are open, but heavy emphasis here will be on creating "the look" of a well-abused tough-truck competitor. These things take an absolute BEATING the likes of which no truck was ever meant to see. Remember, Rollovers are frequent, and the body is the last thing to get repaired. Also, tough trucks run the gamut from $50 beaters dragged from the woodlot behind someone's house, to $50,000 stadium-style race trucks. it's definitely "run whatcha brung".

mud racers:
This will be broken into two categories:
Street-legal: This really should be called "street appearing". Lights, mufflers, windshields, etc. not required. open stack-type exhausts, (like from the mad mudder kit) body mods, etc. are all okay, but no stretched wheelbases, no tube frames, etc. No paddle tires allowed in this class. Stock-type suspensions and frames only. Square-or rectangular tube may be substituted for a bent/broken/missing frame, but no round tube frames allowed. Full Rollcages OK. Fuel cells okay. tractor tires okay.

Open-unlimited: This is for the bad-dogs. Anything goes. Body style, frame type, all open to your imagination. Want to build a paddle-tired, rear engine unit with an underslung chassis? Go for it. 4WD Funny car? Sure. Use your imagination. the competitors in the 1:1 classes do quite a bit. I've seen everything from a glass-bodied '57 thunderbird to a Chevy s-10 with the engine mounted in the middle, to Fuel-altered type bodies like bantams, t-buckets, and even the occasional chopped Ford Vickie and deuce!

Puller rules:
This will be broken down as Follows:
2WD: Any two-wheel-drive pulling-type vehicle that is not a tractor. tire sizes and types, body styles, etc. are all unlimited. Wheelbase stretches are permitted. All bodies are permitted. Weights may be placed anywhere and in any fashion.

4WD: Any four-wheel-drive pulling vehicle. This will include trucks with reagular street tires outfitted with equipment for pulling as well as trucks equpped with specialty pulling tires. Also included will be Diesel pullers (break out your AMT Dodge Snap-kits!)

Tractor: Any pulling tractor, any number of engines, and type of engine (Turbine, Allison, or otherwise. The sky's the limit. Just keep in mind that many sanctioning bodies are now limiting these things to 25,000 horsepower(YIKES!)

Lawn tractor: yes, lawn tractor. Any lawn tractor modified for lawn-tractor pulling. or, any small pulling tractor equipped with any engine less than 8 cylinders. (Generally called Mini-rods). Can be powered by motorcycle engines.

And that's pretty much it. All the rest of the rules as stated above. I am really looking forward to some creative and unique models from you guys.

screamXforXme, if you have aything on here you want me to change/clarify/delete, let me know.
Peace, Chris Remember When real cars were made of metal and models were made of plastic? Now real cars are plastic and models are metal! "Have any good freakouts lately?"
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 07, 2006 2:05 PM
everything sounds in order to me, i think i'm gonna enter a 79 bronco in the tough trucks
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Posted by monsterjammer on Thursday, September 07, 2006 3:52 PM
It was about time. COUNT ME IN!!!!!!!! I have a Dragon Slayer I'm working on. Now the body is a die-cast pre-painted but I'm going to modify the paint job a little. Can I use this one?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:10 PM
I'm in with an IH Scout Rock Crawler.Ground hawgs, lift kit, roll cage, the works
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:35 PM
monsterjammer, good to see you in, and of course you can use dragon slayer.

also, instead of my entry in the tough trucks, i'll be making yet another entry in the monster truck class, in class two, i'm entering carolina crusher 3
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Posted by NitroChargerAAFC on Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:37 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by screamXforXme666

alright, i'm gonna try this, hopefully we can get it goin with a little more allowance of entry.

nitrochargeraafc, i kinda took your rules, i hope you dont mind bud!

-Must be an existing or a no name monster truck
-Can be built box stock or out of several kits
-Aftermarket parts are fully welcome
-Home made decals are allowed
-It is preferable to post progress pics
-start date is september 11th, monday morning.
-multiple entries are welcome, however no more than 5 per person will be allowed.
-end date will be january first, new years day.

there will a winner, no prize, just the glory of winning, as well as three classes.

class one- old style trucks, leaf spring suspension
class two- new style trucks, tube framed trucks
class three- work in progress, can be either new style or old, only enter this class if you know you will not be finished in time for the contest. you may switch from class one or two if you run out of time.


ok time for my entries.

in class one

Nightlife 2 chevy stepside
equalizer 2 chevy s10

and in class two

monster mutt 49 mercury
bigfoot 10(straight out of the box)

have fun and good luck!!!



Go ahead man! I'm kinda flattered!!! Hey by the way...Would a '02 Ram on leaf springs would fit in one of your classes?? By the way i see it, i think it would go in 2 of 'em...!Big SmileBig Smile
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:02 PM
nitro, now that theres the tough truck class, pretty much anything would be ok to enter lol. but if your entering an actual monster truck, that uses leaf springs, it would be in class one, the older style trucks.

and an 02 ram? where did you find that? i'd love to use that for a raminator truck
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Posted by mcss8788 on Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:50 PM
I'm in, at the moment I am working on the Grave Digger and is autographed by Garry Porter. I also have the Snake Bite truck, USA 1, Bigfoots and I want to try and build Avenger.
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Posted by javelinsst390 on Friday, September 08, 2006 9:36 AM
Aesome to see you guys joining in! The '02 Ram must be one of the older AMT Snap-fast kits? (I don;t know WHY they never made them in regular glue-kit form, but oh, well!)

And yeah, all of those sound good to me. The leafer '02 ram could fit into any number of classes. if it's a monster, then class one monster trucks. if it's a regular lifted truck, it could fit into either the street-legal mud-racer class or the Tough truck class. (i never thought about it, but there could be a number of cross-over vehicles btween tough-truck and street-legal mudder. I'll leave it up to the entrants on which class they want to be in.)

Can't wait to see what you guys are working on.!
Peace, Chris Remember When real cars were made of metal and models were made of plastic? Now real cars are plastic and models are metal! "Have any good freakouts lately?"
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Posted by MillerMeteor on Friday, September 08, 2006 9:37 AM
I`m definately in! I`ll be building either the AMT or Revell Grave Digger, whichever is more detailed, cant remember atm Tongue

On the bench (cos I see people put that in here!):

* Scratchbuilt Peterbilt 351 (finished)/Fruehauf tanker - The Duel Truck

* 1977 Pontiac Ventura 'Cannonball Run 2011' CBP Entry

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 08, 2006 11:38 AM
i to am very happy to see everyone joining in, i picked up the final kit i need to get started on monday, an older s10 for equalizer. hey mcss8788 which avenger are you going to do? the old s10 or the 57 chevy? and which color the green one, the orange one, the orang and green one, or the chrome one? im just curious as the 57 chevy will be a future build for me, so i'd love to see someone else do it as well.
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Posted by monsterjammer on Friday, September 08, 2006 12:58 PM
Thanks Scream. So far, for sure, I will be entering the Dragon Slayer. I might have more to enter but the deadline is a little short, I think.

Posssible entries would be BACKDRAFT, BUILT FORD TOUGH BLUE THUNDER or BIGFOOT #16 with the 30th anniversary paint job. Until then we shall see......................

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Posted by mcss8788 on Friday, September 08, 2006 6:30 PM
ScreamX most likely the orange on, not sure I have a long list of builds to do.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 08, 2006 9:56 PM
yeah i was thinking that the deadline was to short as well now that i thought about it. how does the end of march sound to everyone?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 08, 2006 11:57 PM
Well,
I may jump in if it's cool.
I just started a ford f150 pre runner that would be along the "Tough truck" line.
Might be the only tough truck,but I would like to represent?
This is an example of what it might end up like.
If this is ok ,let me know.
The one I will build will be converted from 4x4 to 2wd I beam and a ford of course.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 09, 2006 12:19 PM
sounds good to me, i cant wait to see that old ford built up nice!

even though i'm prone to monsters, i would love to see some more of the other classes guys!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:05 PM
Alright Im in for sure, Ill let you all know what im building soon
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Posted by javelinsst390 on Saturday, September 09, 2006 3:50 PM
Can;t wait to see what you guys are working on. I'll have pics of Mine on Monday.

Shifty, The Chevy you built looks like a perfect tough-truck competitor. If the Ford comes out half as good we'll be in for a treat.
And you'll have master Chief's IH Scout for competition... And I have a lot of parts lying around to do a tough-truck as well.


And BJ, glad to have you. i know that you'll definitely be cranking out something good for us.
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Posted by monsterjammer on Sunday, September 10, 2006 2:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by screamXforXme666

yeah i was thinking that the deadline was to short as well now that i thought about it. how does the end of march sound to everyone?


That's perfect, in my opinion. Too many holidays during the earlier deadline.Tongue

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Posted by davidray6 on Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:54 PM
Count me in I have been looking for this type of build. I just picked up 3 monster truck kits at Wally world for $7.00 Each. not sure what to build yet.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 11, 2006 5:24 AM
http://photos.yahoo.com/smllmchl/. and see some of my monsters from a cbp from last year !!!!! AMT's 53 ford will fit on the madd mudder frame with very little cutting and looks way cool !!!
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Posted by NitroChargerAAFC on Monday, September 11, 2006 10:43 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by screamXforXme666

nitro, now that theres the tough truck class, pretty much anything would be ok to enter lol. but if your entering an actual monster truck, that uses leaf springs, it would be in class one, the older style trucks.

and an 02 ram? where did you find that? i'd love to use that for a raminator truck

Any hobby shop should have it since it's a 1/18 scale Motormax Diecast. It's a crew cab (4 doors open) short box. I intend to put a set of USA-1wheels to try to represent a ''46-inch'' monster truck!!!
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Posted by javelinsst390 on Monday, September 11, 2006 11:14 AM
Okay, I promised pics, and nobody else has any progress shots, so I'll post mine:

here's my Monster Truck class one entry:

Bigfoot #1. The original AMT kit. this truck holds a special place in my heart, not only because I first saw it in person at a tractor pull at the tender age of 6, in 1986, But my dad had a 1979 Ford F250 4x4. Seeing a truck that looked just like the old beater sitting in our driveway crushing cars and looking like that just warped my fragile little brain forever.
here's a really cool pic of Bigfoot's humble beginnings. believe it or not, this IS the first Bigfoot truck. (Though Bigfoot #1 as it exists today shares only a few parts with the original truck seen here. EVERYTHING has been replaced at least once, including the frame, and main cab.) Just think, if it weren't for one guy who just wanted the biggest, baddest show truck on the planet, we wouldn't HAVE monster trucks today.


This kit was one of my "grails" and I got lucky enough to have this kit GIVEN to me after a twenty-year search to find one.

Unfortunately, upon opening the kit, it's a little disappointing. While it's a very good representation of Bigfoot #1, (or #2, in it's earlier set-up), it's not 100% Accurate. The biggest let-down was that the kit was based on the old AMT '79 Ford 4x4 kit. Why is that a big deal? Well, that kit was made by up-dating the tooling from the '76 Ford kit, which was a 2wd extended-wheelbase camper special. Which means that the rear wheels are set farther back than on a "normal" Ford truck. The Bigfoot kit (and the original destroyer kit) also have the rear wheels in the wrong spot, to coincide with the wheel openings on the kit bed. So, i started by correcting the wheelbase (I just attached the leaf springs just ahead of where they are supposed t go), and I am now starting to work on correcting the bedsides before I add the fender flares and other parts.

one of the coolest features on the Real bigfoot truck was the tilt-forward front clip. I remember Bob Chandler parking the thing on top of the cars they had there and tilting the hood forward. I had never seen that before! that was COOL! And tilt front ends still are to me to this day. So I HAD to replicate this on the model. After come careful marking, measuring, and trimming with an X-Acto, here is the result:


It may take me a while to finish this. I want to have the bigfoot-specific parts cast in resin so i can build another one of these (bigfoot #2) and have some custom parts for the soon-to-be-re-released Model King '79 Ford kit.


March Sounds Good. I hope to have these finished by then.
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Posted by javelinsst390 on Monday, September 11, 2006 11:43 AM
Here is my Puller Entry. The orange Blossom Special II Pulling truck. I hope to eplicate it as seen here:

I saw this truck run at the same show I saw The First Bigfoot truck at. The train whistle was especially ool to a little kid. I plan to try and repliocate this as best I can from the old AMT kit.

I must confess, I actually started working on this one BEFORE the CBP started, but I hadn;t finished much on it, And I just this weekend stripped the paint on it and re-did it as I wasn't satisfied with the results. Color is House of kolor tangelo Pearl. (It looks a lot lighter and closer to the real truck in person. I don't know why it looks so dark in the pics.) It's not quite the right color for the real truck, but I like it.
here's the pic of it re-painted:


This is a wonderful kit (BRING IT BACK RC2!!! Are you listening?) The detail is actually very good. Complete with all the puller weights, the only gripes I have with this kit are the Wheelbase, as stated in the instructions, is a bit long, and sets the rear wheels too far back. The rear wheels had a funny-looking set-back to them (they want those rear tires as far back as possible), but they weren't nearly as far shoved-back on the real truck as they are on the model. just glue the rear axle a little forward of where it's supposed to go and all will be right with the world. Also, the real truck runs an automatic trans, but the kit depicts a four-speed (and a VERY nicely cast one at that!). No matter, as the real truck had a trans-blanket around the tranny, obscuring all detail. So that takes care of itself.

The only other complaint I have is the headers: Assembled from six seperate plated pieces, They look like absolute GARBAGE when assembled out of the box. These turn what could be an excellent build into a toy-like-looking unit. So, i stripped all the chome from them, Drilled out the ends, and assembled them without plating. I'll Hit these with the Alclad Chrome later.

If you guys don;t want me to inlcude this one in the CBP, I have a Tennessee Thunder Funny Car puller I could do for the CBP instead that is un-built. I also have another OBS2 kit (that someone started... they brush-painted the Cab John-Deere green and the fenders and hood blue! YUCK! need to get them in the purple pond...)

Anyway, you guys can check out more build pics (and the rest of my built-ups) on my Photobucket:
http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b273/JavelinSST390
Just go to the Monster Truck Puller CBP folder.

I also have a tough-truck Made from the Mad Mudder kit in the works, and a Mud-racer.

let's see what you guys got!
Peace, Chris Remember When real cars were made of metal and models were made of plastic? Now real cars are plastic and models are metal! "Have any good freakouts lately?"
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Posted by javelinsst390 on Monday, September 11, 2006 11:50 AM
BTW, does anyone have detailed close-up pics of the steering set-ups and/or diagrams of the plumbing/wiring for some of these older monsters and pullers? I want to convert my Bigfoot-1 to four-wheel steer and detail all of these builds to the max.
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Posted by monsterjammer on Monday, September 11, 2006 12:56 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by javelinsst390

BTW, does anyone have detailed close-up pics of the steering set-ups and/or diagrams of the plumbing/wiring for some of these older monsters and pullers? I want to convert my Bigfoot-1 to four-wheel steer and detail all of these builds to the max.


Hey Chris you might want to look on Dennis Taft's website for reference pics. This is a direct link to BIGFOOT #1 pics.
http://monsterphoto.iwarp.com/orig.htm

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 11, 2006 1:28 PM
all right guys, day one of the build is finally here, so i'll start posting the pics of the builds so far, starting with my carolina crusher 3. the model is special to me, as i've met gary porter 3 times, each time with a different truck, carolina crushers 1-3, and hes one of the nicest guys in the buisness.

now, for those of you who dont know which one i'm talking about, here is the real truck.

the photo is from monsterphoto.iwarp.com, and i hope dennis doesnt have any objection to me using it. on a side note, i have invited dennis to the build, so if he joins, we should see a real spectacular build.

this is how carolina crusher will begin life, as a body from a usa-1 truck.


this is step two, i removed the innerfenders, the front end, the rear of the cab, and the entire bed except for the outer panels. i still need to cut the body to avoide the tires, and of coarse do the body work.

this one will be riding on the teenage mutant ninja turtles truck frame, and it wont be completely accurate, but it will be cool nonetheless.

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