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Small block Chevy headers UPDATE - FOUND THEM

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  • From: Podunk, Illinois
Small block Chevy headers UPDATE - FOUND THEM
Posted by smhardesty on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:16 PM

 

I’m looking for a set of small block Chevy headers to use on my 340 Barracuda project. I know, I know, don’t any of you die hard MOPAR fans have a heart attack. What I really need are headers for the 340. I got a heads up that headers from small block Chevy kits fit just fine and that there a a lot of kits that have those headers in them. If anybody has headers for a 340, I’d be more than happy to stay true to the brand. So if anybody happens to have ANY set of headers that will work, holler. Or if anybody knows which kit that has a good set and also sells cheap on eBay, I’d like to hear.

Steve

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Posted by trainwreck on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:54 PM

If you could provide more info I will test fit the parts I have and let you know "exacly" what you need. I think you said you where using the 340 from the 71 duster.That being said, do you plan to use the chassis also? or have you opted to use the '69 cuda frame? Trainwreck.

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Posted by smhardesty on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:27 PM
OK. The chassis and pretty much every part except the body and interior tub will be from the MPC ‘69 Barracuda kit. The engine will be from the AMT/ERTL ‘71 Duster kit. Not that it matters a bunch, but it’s a 340, not a 360. Other than the headers, the 340 will be built strictly from parts in the ‘71 Duster kit, then I’ll add some plumbing and a pre-wired distributor. For reference purposes only, I have some decals for the dash and also some State of Illinois license plates. I have some generic photoetch parts like wire looms and I’ll probably add a few more. I haven’t seen a set of photoetch parts specifically for a ‘69 Barracuda, but I’d probably get a set if they exist. Then I’ll be using a pair of Cragar SS wheels on the front with 3rd party tires and a set of Mickey Thompson N50 tires on 10” steelies on the back. I’m not sure how much, but I’ll more than likely end up giving the back end a little lift to be sure and clear the tires.

Steve

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Posted by trainwreck on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 4:42 PM

360????? well anyway if you have or can find the grumpy's toy '66 nova you're set. This kit is a 3in 1 so if you pirate the headers the donor car can still be built. Trainwreck.

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Posted by Bainford on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:02 PM

The problem with kit headers is that they are designed to fit a specific kit, and won't necessarily slip into a different chassis regardless of engine fitted. When trying to find a set of kit headers for a build I don't worry about what engine they were designed for, they aren't made with enough detail to tell the difference. I'm not sure 1:1 headers are.

Al you have to worry about is the exhaust port configuration, of which there are two main types for American v-8s. The small block Mopar and the small block Chevy share the centre siamesed port arrangement. Many other GM cars do as well, so any of these could be potential doners.

The problem is, will they fit a given chassis. I keep all of my spare sets of headers in one box. When I need a set for a build I dig out the box, find all of the headers with the proper port configuration, and try fitting to the mocked up chassis to see what fits. The vast majority won't properly without significant modification, sometimes to the point of pretty much making a set. I have a stash of a few hundred kits and will dig through a few of them as well looking for headers if the spares box fails to provide. And I still may of find a good set.

The reason I mention all of this is that it can be nearly impossible to offer solid advice on a set of headers that will fit a specific engine/chassis combination without personal experience the build. I have a couple sets of headers from Chevys and from small block Mopars, and I will happily offer a set up, but the reality is they may not fit. For the same reason, buying a kit for the headers sould only be done if you want the kit anyway, as they just may not fit.

Anyway, just cautioning you to the reality of providing header fitment advice or suggestions. If you are interested in a set I may have, send me a PM.

Cheers

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Lightness matters everywhere. - Colin Chapman

Trevor

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Posted by trainwreck on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:25 PM

Bainford, please don't think me rude but did you read my first post on this thread ? I have physically "fit" these parts on this frame. The exhaust ports are identical, I don't give bad advice, and if I don't know the answer I don't pretend to. Trainwreck.

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Posted by Bainford on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:39 PM

Cheers Mr Trainwreck. I had actually read that bit a couple days ago but it slipped my mind this evening. But also, please understand that none of my comments were actually in response to any suggestions or recommendations you made. Having forgotten the bit about actually trying the fit I did caution about buying a kit, but it's really just my random thoughts on the difficulty of providing recommendations for a header. You have actually done the requisite fitting and hats off to you sir for your efforts. This is the stuff that makes the community great.

Also, please know that I do hold your advice and comments in high regard. It was not my intent to dis your recommendation, though I do see how it reads that way. Your post wasn't on my mind when I replied, and I apologise for the misunderstanding.

Cheers

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Lightness matters everywhere. - Colin Chapman

Trevor

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Posted by trainwreck on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:44 PM

Thanks, Treainwreck. Oh ya and right back at you with the whole cheers thing.

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Posted by smhardesty on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:55 PM

trainwreck

360????? well anyway if you have or can find the grumpy's toy '66 nova you're set. This kit is a 3in 1 so if you pirate the headers the donor car can still be built. Trainwreck.

That’ll work. I could stand having a ‘66 Nova built as a mild street rod in my collection. I’ll start looking for one at a reasonable price. Thanks for the tip! Thumbs Up

Steve

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Posted by midnightprowler on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:02 PM

I have a set of sb Chevy headers you can have, not sure what kit they are out of.

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Posted by smhardesty on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:57 PM

midnightprowler

I have a set of sb Chevy headers you can have, not sure what kit they are out of.

 

I just logged in to update this thread. I bought a Grumpy's Toy Nova just a little while ago. I appreciate your offer, prowler, but I acted kinda fast. I found the Grumpy's kit at a really good price so went for it.
 

Steve

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Posted by trainwreck on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 9:28 PM

I read good things about the xtra parts in the nova. What do you think of the steelies? I've got a couple early versions but never bought the "Grumpy" car. Trainwreck.

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  • From: Podunk, Illinois
Posted by smhardesty on Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:41 PM
I’m going to assume you are referring to the steelies that are in the Grumpy’s Toy kit. I bought the kit on eBay. I haven’t received it yet. I’m hoping there are plenty of options in the kit. I’m going to swipe the headers out of it for my Barracuda project, then build the Nova as a mild street rod.

Steve

On the bench - Right now, a mess.

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