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Scale Auto Magazine Latest Issue.
Posted by PatrickW on Monday, April 23, 2018 5:15 PM

I received the latest mag today in the UK. It was interesting to see more info about small diecast Hot Wheels and Matchbox, plus a very interesting article on customizing diecasts.

Hot wheels here in the UK start at around £10, that's 1/64 and 1/43rd scale and larger scales are more expensive that plastic kits. Matchbox start at around £20. To build/customize as shown in the article we would need to buy quite a few to get various parts to use in customizing.

We also need to have very good eyesight to work on these, to really be able to get high quality detailing. Decaling would be pretty difficult too if we could buy any after market ones. 

I'm still a plastic kit builder because they come white or grey plastic and we can choose what colours we want to paint them and they are easy to modify. Diecast come already painted so need the paint stripping first after we've been able to take them apart, most of which here are factory rivetted together.  

Other than this issue this mag is as good as ever including show reports that we love to see in the UK.

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Posted by PatrickW on Thursday, April 26, 2018 2:09 AM

I've also done a search on our Amazon and ebay sites here in the UK and they don't have the small Hot Wheels or Mattels in stock so to add to the cost we would have to have them imported, which would double or treble to cost here in the UK.

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Posted by Bainford on Thursday, April 26, 2018 7:08 AM

That's a pretty expensive way to play with Hot Wheels. I had no idea they were so expensive there. Here, you can pick them up for the equivilent of about 80p. If I see a cool one, I pick it up just for fun. Flea markets and yard sales often have buckets of used ones for just a few cents each.

Are there UK brands of these types of toys? I was even thinking Matchbox was a UK brand, but perhaps not. Are Corgi cars expensive there?

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Posted by High octane on Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:54 AM

While I know that there are a lot of collectors of Hot Wheels and some that re-paint or modify them, to me they are just toys. I do buy them for my grandson only if they're new and still in the original packaging, and I do play Hot Wheels with him when he wants to.

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Posted by Robby DeGraff on Friday, April 27, 2018 11:51 AM

Hey Patrick- this is an excellent comment and I liked reading it.

So to get this straigh becuase I'm curious, a Hot Wheels/Matchbox like such: http://www.scaleautomag.com/articles/2018/04/off-the-shelf-april-11

 

costs you about £10 up to £20? or  in our currency, that comes out to about $13 US dollars?

Most Matchbox, Hot Wheels etc in that scale are pretty cheap here in the states, like aorund $1 US

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Posted by PatrickW on Friday, April 27, 2018 3:27 PM

Well Robby your lucky that they are readily available. We have some that are in packs in the supermarkets but cheap means cheap! They are mostly 1/67 (but don't have any scale size) and some too small to work on or to see without a magnifier!

Matchbox although originally a British make are on sale in some toyshops and are priced as I mentioned above. If they are old stock which is rare they might be £5 each but nothing below that.

I've just looked on a supermarket website and they have a 50 pack of Hot Wheels cars at £90! Which you can only buy on the internet, so you don't really know what's in there until it arrives!

I've just found Hot Wheels at another supermarket site, 5 pack of cars at £11. and a 2 pack of Superman cars also at £11!  

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Posted by Robby DeGraff on Friday, April 27, 2018 3:56 PM

Patrick could I publish this comment of yours in an upcoming issue?

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Posted by hayes on Saturday, April 28, 2018 9:42 AM

I would agree with all of PatrickW's comments. I model plastic & resin kits but the same conditions apply with regards to price & workability.

Firstly, the prices of any models in the UK that are imported items are a lot higher than in the USA. An AMT or Revell model kit from a hobby shop in the USA can retail for $15 - $25, over here that same kit would retail for £25 - £35. All this is due to the usual shipping costs + customs duty/sales tax + financial transaction fees + the importers & retailers profit. etc.. Looking at the prices of diecasts in the adverts & the New Products page in Scale Auto some of them are eye watering, I will leave you to guess what they would be in the UK.

Secondly, I model in 1/24 or 1/25 scale - full stop! The only diecasts in this scale that I know of are the Welly range, I recently bought one of these, it was priced at just under £20, in the hope of doing some work on it. The paint is impervious to any stripper that I treated it to & being metal there wasn't the option to do what I normally like to do which is cut & modify the body. The chassis & engine bay detail wasn't nearly as good as I wanted - or as good as many styrene kits - but with no suitable donor kit I couldn't rectify that. I have made a number of convertibles out of 2 door hardtop kits & I have a 2 door hardtop that started life as a 4 door sedan kit, plus adding full chassis & engine bay detail to "kerbside" resin kits using styrene donor kits. I can do that with plastic or resin quite enjoyably - not with metal, or at least it is nowhere near as attractive an option. How one does all that with a resin "die cast" worries me as, in my experience, using any paint stripper that can be obtained over here on resin items ends in tears.

I must admit that I am a builder not a collector, as I would suspect the majority of Scale Auto readers are. I do have a few die casts, but my main hobby by a long way is a creative one &, so far, despite the article on customizing a die cast, I am not encouraged to change.

Keep up the good work on the magazine, I would appreciate an occasional article on Factory Stock Detroit "land yacht" builds & their necessary techniques, as they seem have gone from the pages in recent years.

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Posted by BUGATTI FAN on Sunday, April 29, 2018 6:29 AM

Burago from Italy make a number of die cast models in 1/24th scale besides their more well known 1/18th scale range. Burago models are much more affordable than many other ready made die casts. In fact they can lend themselves to some re working and extra detailing. They make a nice Bugatti Atlantic Coupe in 1/24th scale that I am looking to detail up that is buried in my stash at present. A model that I am working on right now is based on a Burago model of a standard Austin Metro. Some time ago I bought a resin kit by a now defunct UK company MRM International who made a kit of the MG Metro 6R4 Group 4 Rally Car. The shape of it was hopelessly wrong and it was over scale, looking more like 1/20th than 1/24th. I had a look at the Burago Metro road car model and to my surprise, found that that was overscale by approximately the same amount as the resin kit. The diecast Metro body was actually quite accurate in shape, so I decided a major conversion could be done. So I am now busy hacking parts off of the diecast body to be replaced with the bonnet (hood), front and rear valances and the wide wheel arches, and converting all the interior and engine bay into a works 6R4.

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Posted by bob29579 on Monday, April 30, 2018 10:46 AM

That's incredible and really sad too.  I do more hot wheel repaints and customizing now than I do model kits.  For $1, I find there are a  lot of things you can do to customize and make them look very nice.

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  • From: Central U.K.
Posted by hayes on Tuesday, May 01, 2018 5:44 AM

Thanks Bugatti Fan, I've seen a lot of Burago diecasts but always it is the 1/18th scale subjects, I've not seen their 1/24th scale cars. Unfortunately, they don't seem to do my sort of subject '50s/'60s Detroit "fins & chrome", if I want that sort of subject I would have to go for Brooklin or Neo - but I would need a win on the lottery first!

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